https://wiki.syn2cat.lu/w/index.php?title=Organisation_talk:Syn2cat&feed=atom&action=historyOrganisation talk:Syn2cat - Revision history2024-03-29T15:24:56ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.19.24//wiki.syn2cat.lu/w/index.php?title=Organisation_talk:Syn2cat&diff=17847&oldid=prevKwisatz: moved Talk:Association to Organisation talk:Syn2cat2011-12-25T19:41:17Z<p>moved <a href="/wiki/Talk:Association" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Association">Talk:Association</a> to <a href="/wiki/Organisation_talk:Syn2cat" title="Organisation talk:Syn2cat">Organisation talk:Syn2cat</a></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>::Well, you could always increase the number of seats ;) The likeliness depends on whether we're able to create associations for those not member of another association. I think of the people that should become the graffitiresearchlab group. Anyway, does it matter if they're members of multiple associations? Maybe in respect to the membership fee, true. --[[User:Kwisatz|kwisatz]] 18:27, 15 December 2008 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>::Well, you could always increase the number of seats ;) The likeliness depends on whether we're able to create associations for those not member of another association. I think of the people that should become the graffitiresearchlab group. Anyway, does it matter if they're members of multiple associations? Maybe in respect to the membership fee, true. --[[User:Kwisatz|kwisatz]] 18:27, 15 December 2008 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>We could rent out the Hackerspace's stage or conference area to others to get some extra money. Would need <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">than </del>the CA to agree on those events as <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the </del>conflict with <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the </del>other users or may need the full space.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>We could rent out the Hackerspace's stage or conference area to others to get some extra money. Would need the CA to agree on those events as <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">they potentially </ins>conflict with other users or may need the full space.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Do we charge associations if they want to hold a venue or not? --[[User:Kwisatz|kwisatz]] 15:48, 11 December 2008 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Do we charge associations if they want to hold a venue or not? --[[User:Kwisatz|kwisatz]] 15:48, 11 December 2008 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">== </del>On why 42€/21€ are not much at all <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">==</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">''' </ins>On why 42€/21€ are not much at all <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'''</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>As you all know what the HackerSpace is about let me reiterate what Benefits you really get out of it.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>As you all know what the HackerSpace is about let me reiterate what Benefits you really get out of it.</div></td></tr>
</table>Steve//wiki.syn2cat.lu/w/index.php?title=Organisation_talk:Syn2cat&diff=2067&oldid=prevSteve: /* Fees */2009-01-11T16:49:56Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Fees</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Sponsorships or donors need to get a bit extra attention, a Thank you plate or similar, I thought that we give them a Free Pass too (or more if they are willing to invest 1260€) 420€/840€/1260€</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Sponsorships or donors need to get a bit extra attention, a Thank you plate or similar, I thought that we give them a Free Pass too (or more if they are willing to invest 1260€) 420€/840€/1260€</div></td></tr>
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