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Can we merge this somehow with the [[Infrastructure]] page? Because it has similar content. --[[User:Kwisatz|kwisatz]] 16:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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== Recurring posters? ==
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What are these 150 € / month for posters for?
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Are those the posters we're issuing? --[[User:Kwisatz|kwisatz]] 13:40, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
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Well it was not for "posters" literally but for Promotional material (which can also mean someones Project)
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== Reflection on electricity ==
 
== Reflection on electricity ==
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For a 1W device this means:
 
For a 1W device this means:
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1 Day ---> 24 Wh ---> 0.024 kWh --> 0.0035€<br />
 
1 Day ---> 24 Wh ---> 0.024 kWh --> 0.0035€<br />
 
1 Month -> 720 Wh --> 0.720 kWh --> 0.1041€<br />
 
1 Month -> 720 Wh --> 0.720 kWh --> 0.1041€<br />
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Charge per year: 190€
 
Charge per year: 190€
  
== Reflection on furnuture ==
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--[[User:Xx5y|Xx5y]] 09:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
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== Reflection on furniture ==
  
 
I think that for the beginning we may save a lot of money simply by asking family and friends if they envisage buying new furniture.
 
I think that for the beginning we may save a lot of money simply by asking family and friends if they envisage buying new furniture.
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--[[User:Xx5y|Xx5y]] 09:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 
--[[User:Xx5y|Xx5y]] 09:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
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:Good idea --[[User:Kwisatz|kwisatz]] 09:38, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
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I'm not that we are going to need a dishwasher right from the start. A sponge, Soap and a bit of discipline from everyone
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has the same effect. Same for the Cleaning Maid. A schedule with two to four people per month that clean up should be fine as well, and save some cash.
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--[[User:Laurent|Laurent]] 17:27, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
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== Drinks and Food ==
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Drinks and Food (150€?)...
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I personally think everyone should pay for what he/she has consume. Simply having a little stock of coke, juice and crisps with quiet low prices (1€) will be enough. And people who don't like to pay that money, they should be allowed to bring their one food with...
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--[[User:Xx5y|Xx5y]] 10:26, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
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I totally agree on this an that is how we are currently doing it!
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BUT you still need to BUY the stuff and therefore a budget.
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--[[User:SteveClement|SteveClement]] 09:54, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
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== Equipment ==
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3 Laptops? I think using membership fees to pay for those will require some convincing arguments!
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--[[User:Tschew|Tschew]] 15:50, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
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=== AV Equipment ===
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Judging by the planned expenditure for the AV system I assume we plan to watch movies using the beamer and some canvas. I'm not sure about the copyright situation in Luxembourg, but I think we should consider possible licensing costs as well. --[[User:Tschew|Tschew]] 16:37, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
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:Cmon' wheres the rebel in you ;) But yeah your right we will ONLY watch CC-Licensed stuff.... on yourtube  --Steve
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:: Well I'm just a bit worried about being made an example of by the MAFIA. The seem particularily litigious at this time of the year and showing a DVD in a "club" like ours is considered a public performance in many countries. --[[User:Tschew|Tschew]] 12:21, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
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::: yeah but we "charge" people to join the club therefor making it a private club? (that's even worse isn't it) --[[User:SteveClement|SteveClement]] 09:56, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
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== Security Fund ==
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I believe we should set up a safety net in a separate account. Money that will not be touched and still belongs to the "donor" unless some calamity causes dire need. The money can only be withdrawn with agreement of the board. I personally vouch to add 500€ to the pot. --[[User:Tschew|Tschew]] 18:38, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
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: That is actually a very good idea. How would you technically go about the 'still belongs to the donor' part? By signing a contract (even if just verbally?) --[[User:Kwisatz|kwisatz]] 18:52, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
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:: A receipt and declaration signed by the board (or a representative subset thereof). The withdrawal must be carried out by some proportion of the board present at the bank at the same time. --[[User:Tschew|Tschew]] 19:47, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
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::: I have already a savings account on our Account, I can do a Second one without problems, I feared that the Saving option is too conservative though but seemingly not, good! --Steve

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[edit] Recurring posters?

What are these 150 € / month for posters for?

Are those the posters we're issuing? --kwisatz 13:40, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Well it was not for "posters" literally but for Promotional material (which can also mean someones Project)


[edit] Reflection on electricity

Currently the electricity price are 14.46 c€/kWh

For a 1W device this means:
1 Day ---> 24 Wh ---> 0.024 kWh --> 0.0035€
1 Month -> 720 Wh --> 0.720 kWh --> 0.1041€
1 Year --> 8760 Wh -> 8.760 kWh --> 1.2667€

For a Server with 150W average power consumption this means:
Charge per month: 15.6€
Charge per year: 190€

--Xx5y 09:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Reflection on furniture

I think that for the beginning we may save a lot of money simply by asking family and friends if they envisage buying new furniture.

My experience with my scouts group is that we will get more armchairs and couches then we will actually need.


--Xx5y 09:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Good idea --kwisatz 09:38, 14 January 2009 (UTC)


I'm not that we are going to need a dishwasher right from the start. A sponge, Soap and a bit of discipline from everyone has the same effect. Same for the Cleaning Maid. A schedule with two to four people per month that clean up should be fine as well, and save some cash.

--Laurent 17:27, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Drinks and Food

Drinks and Food (150€?)...

I personally think everyone should pay for what he/she has consume. Simply having a little stock of coke, juice and crisps with quiet low prices (1€) will be enough. And people who don't like to pay that money, they should be allowed to bring their one food with...

--Xx5y 10:26, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


I totally agree on this an that is how we are currently doing it! BUT you still need to BUY the stuff and therefore a budget. --SteveClement 09:54, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Equipment

3 Laptops? I think using membership fees to pay for those will require some convincing arguments!

--Tschew 15:50, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] AV Equipment

Judging by the planned expenditure for the AV system I assume we plan to watch movies using the beamer and some canvas. I'm not sure about the copyright situation in Luxembourg, but I think we should consider possible licensing costs as well. --Tschew 16:37, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Cmon' wheres the rebel in you ;) But yeah your right we will ONLY watch CC-Licensed stuff.... on yourtube --Steve
Well I'm just a bit worried about being made an example of by the MAFIA. The seem particularily litigious at this time of the year and showing a DVD in a "club" like ours is considered a public performance in many countries. --Tschew 12:21, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
yeah but we "charge" people to join the club therefor making it a private club? (that's even worse isn't it) --SteveClement 09:56, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Security Fund

I believe we should set up a safety net in a separate account. Money that will not be touched and still belongs to the "donor" unless some calamity causes dire need. The money can only be withdrawn with agreement of the board. I personally vouch to add 500€ to the pot. --Tschew 18:38, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

That is actually a very good idea. How would you technically go about the 'still belongs to the donor' part? By signing a contract (even if just verbally?) --kwisatz 18:52, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
A receipt and declaration signed by the board (or a representative subset thereof). The withdrawal must be carried out by some proportion of the board present at the bank at the same time. --Tschew 19:47, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
I have already a savings account on our Account, I can do a Second one without problems, I feared that the Saving option is too conservative though but seemingly not, good! --Steve
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