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== Possible Locations ==
 
== Possible Locations ==
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* [[#Apartment: (near) 172, rte d'Arlon, Strassen]]
 
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* [[#Strassen, former primary school "containers"]]
 
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* [[#Apartment: 57, Avenue de la Gare, Luxembourg-Gare]]
 
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===Potentially===
 
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* [[Location::Former Swimming Club Location]] '''(ask)'''
 
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* [http://www.vieilleville.lu/chap1/chap113.htm Former Palais Judicier]
 
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* [[Location::Former Public City Library]]
 
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* [[Location::Former Henry Funk, Neudorf]]
 
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* [[Location::Former Laboratory]]
 
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* [[Location::5, rue du Genistre (former Massimo Dutti)]]
 
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* [[Location::Building next to Cour des Comptes (vis-à-vis Bananas)]]
 
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* Industrial Buildings - Würth, ArcelorMittal
 
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* CFL - '''Hackers-on-a-Train'''
 
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* Gronn: [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=luxembourg,+luxembourg&ie=UTF8&ll=49.607734,6.136057&spn=0.003866,0.008283&z=17 Tilleschgaass, Rue Saint-Ulric] (ex [http://flash007.lu/ Flash007] Headquarters) '''(Fonds du logement)'''
 
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* [http://www.vieilleville.lu/chap5/ilot_d/index.html Former Cour Supérieure et Parquet Général]
 
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* Centre Émile Hamilius
 
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* Hall Fondouq, Dudelange, Rail Station Dudelang Usine @ 500m [http://www.retourdebabel.org/index.php/fre/HALL-FONDOUQ Hall Fondouq] former exhibition "retour de babel"
 
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* Another location around the complex the ARBED complex Dudelange
 
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* http://www.athome.lu/annonces-immobilier/location/duplex/sud/dudelange/dudelange/673488
 
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* http://www.luxbazar.lu/Immobilier/Ref425712/Bureaux-de-standing-meubles-750-Euros.htm
 
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== The perfect place ==
 
== The perfect place ==
  
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* Small room without windows/light (for photography stuff)
 
* Small room without windows/light (for photography stuff)
 
* Access to Food (either Restaurants or Markets)
 
* Access to Food (either Restaurants or Markets)
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== Apartment: 57, Avenue de la Gare, Luxembourg-Gare ==
 
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Our recent quest was pretty Juicy. We found a good location 2 minutes from the train station, 2 minutes from a Big Parking space (quite a lot of parking around the area that is free after 18h00.
 
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[http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=57,+avenue+de+la+gare,+luxembourg&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwloc=A On the map]
 
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The costs are (or at least we offered) 800€ per month and 150€ running charges. This is "fair" still a lot but fair. We also demanded the small space on the right hand side so it is more valid to pay that amount.
 
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And now for the more fun part, what does it look like, we made a Video. Sorry for the Luxembourgish Jibber but it had to be quick and dirty:
 
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[https://www.hackerspace.lu/movies/HackerSpace_57-Av_Gare.mp4 PotentialSpace_57]
 
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[http://www.immo-friedrich.lu/details.php?id=100243&type=location&lang=fr More info and front picture]
 
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== Loft: 20, rue du Fort Wallis, Luxembourg ==
 
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I checked out the loft and it looks nice. Plenty of space incl. toilet and shower, a small storage and a kitchen. Floor is Laminat. Real estate agent said that we might have some extra walls. I personally wouldn't recommend that as the open solution gives us the maximum flexibility. Neighbors are studios with young people, so we may listen to music and there is a café downstairs. It is very central (10 minutes walk from the railway station). You shouldn't come by car... parking is not so easy and the police is next door :-)
 
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[[Image:IMG_0319.JPG|thumb|left|200px|The building... note the Café :-)]]
 
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[[Image:IMG_0317.JPG|thumb|left|200px|Walk up the stairs...]]
 
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[[Image:IMG_0311.JPG|thumb|left|450px|et voilà!]]
 
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[[Image:IMG_0314.JPG|thumb|left|200px|Room left side: server storage?]]
 
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[[Image:IMG_0312.JPG|thumb|left|200px|Shower and WC]]
 
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[[Image:IMG_0315.JPG|thumb|left|210px|View from the kitchen]]
 
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[[Image:IMG_0316.JPG|thumb|left|210px|View from the back]]
 
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===Accessibility===
 
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[[Image:FortWallis.jpg|thumb|none|250px|Parking lots and Buses]]
 
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[[Image:FortWallis2.png|thumb|none|250px|Parking lots and Veloh]]
 
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[http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=de&geocode=&q=20,+rue+du+Fort+Wallis+luxembourg&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwloc=addr On the map]
 
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== Apartment: (near) 172, rte d'Arlon, Strassen ==
 
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I checked out this place and it definitely looks very interesting.
 
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The owner is a very nice reasonable person.
 
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It is located on the other side of the road, in front of Mc Donald's in Strassen.<br>
 
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It's an apartment building with an apartment which was used by a travel agency on the ground floor (large front window), and has two levels above that one with private apartments.<br>
 
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There is plenty of parking belonging to the building, hence private, and others in the surroundings.<br>
 
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The rooms are generally well lit by sunlight.
 
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The building was constructed in the 70s, and is in good shape.
 
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There is no garage, but there is a large cellar split up into different rooms which may be locked by key. There are quite large rooms in the cellar giving huge storage space.<br>
 
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There is even a massive safe (there was a bank in there once...) :-) but no clue if one may use it :-).<br>
 
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Nice thing is that there is even a garden for shared use and at the back of the building it's quite and really nice... big plus !
 
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The apartment consists of one large bedroom, one smaller one, a fairly large bathroom, a large living room spanning the whole side of the building, and a kitchen with kitchen stuff (fridge, oven etc) included !<br>
 
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To enter the building, there are two doors closed by keys.
 
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Then a stairway leading to the two floors, and a stairway, separated with a door, leading to the cellar.
 
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The building is completely empty.
 
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Hence the owner isn't 100% sure if he wants to let one apartment or let the building to some agency or so (but I have a feeling he may be convinced to let just one)...<br>
 
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On a side note, I only visited the first floor apartment, but the top floor one is empty as well as noted...only thing is the people who lived there are currently moving out...but it's exactly the same as the one I checked out.
 
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Size is about 80m²<br>
 
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Cellar: several rooms, the main one is about 10-12m² (sorry no pictures), there are other rooms. Is negotiable what we may use.
 
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Here are some pictures of the first floor apartment.
 
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[[Image:cimg1177.jpg|thumb|left|200px| Living Room ]]
 
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[[Image:cimg1178.jpg|thumb|left|200px| Living Room ]]
 
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[[Image:cimg1179.jpg|thumb|left|200px| Living Room ]]
 
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[[Image:cimg1181.jpg|thumb|left|200px| Bedroom 1 ]]
 
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[[Image:cimg1182.jpg|thumb|left|200px| Bedroom 1 ]]
 
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[[Image:cimg1183.jpg|thumb|left|200px| Kitchen ]]
 
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[[Image:cimg1184.jpg|thumb|left|200px| Kitchen ]]
 
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[[Image:cimg1185.jpg|thumb|left|200px| Kitchen ]]
 
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[[Image:cimg1186.jpg|thumb|left|200px| Kitchen ]]
 
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[[Image:cimg1187.jpg|thumb|left|200px| Bedroom 2 ]]
 
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[[Image:cimg1188.jpg|thumb|left|200px| Bedroom 2 ]]
 
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[[Image:cimg1189.jpg|thumb|left|200px| Bedroom 2 ]]
 
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[[Image:cimg1190.jpg|thumb|left|200px| Bathroom ]]
 
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[[Image:cimg1193.jpg|thumb|left|200px| Entrance ]]
 
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[[Image:cimg1194.jpg|thumb|left|200px| Hall ]]
 
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[[Image:plan.png|thumb|left|200px| Apartment plan / sketch ]]
 
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===Accessibility===
 
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There are two main buses going to Strassen from Luxembourg: 18, 222.
 
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The first one is a local bus, the other one comes from Kirchberg, through Strassen, to Steinfort.
 
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There is also a fairly close train-station in Bertrange.
 
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Parking as already mentioned is no problem at all !
 
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Motorway access is "around the corner".
 
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So I suppose everybody would be happy with accessibility to this place.
 
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There are several fast food restaurants nearby (Quick, Mc Donald's, PizzaHut), but also some real restaurants (Italian, Indian, Chines (I think), etc..), Cactus (supermarket/mall) is very close, as is Cora/Concorde.
 
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Banks, Post office, Bakery, Drug Store, etc...
 
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[http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=&daddr=&hl=en&geocode=&mra=mr&ie=UTF8&ll=49.620331,6.069844&spn=0.002888,0.008208&t=h&z=18 On the map]
 
  
  
 
==Strassen, former primary school "containers"==
 
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The place in Strassen is quite close to being perfect...it has 4 seperate classrooms which are about 60m2 each. Every room has a seperate lock on the door. There are 4 toilets for each sex and a small "serverroom" where the existing cabling infrastructure comes together.
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The place in Strassen is quite close to being perfect...it has 4 separate classrooms which are about 60m2 each. Every room has a seperate lock on the door. There are 4 toilets for each sex and a small "serverroom" where the existing cabling infrastructure comes together.
 
Situation is this : We need to wait on a meeting with the local mayor only then will we be able to fix rent charges, possibilities, etc.
 
Situation is this : We need to wait on a meeting with the local mayor only then will we be able to fix rent charges, possibilities, etc.
 
In the meantime, situation is excellent...bus is just 50m away, parking spaces about 20 in front, 50 more further away. Direct proximity to "[http://www.lesthermes.net Les Thermes]" and its Restaurant/Bar facilities.
 
In the meantime, situation is excellent...bus is just 50m away, parking spaces about 20 in front, 50 more further away. Direct proximity to "[http://www.lesthermes.net Les Thermes]" and its Restaurant/Bar facilities.
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Image:Strassen_1.jpg|Entrance
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Image:Strassen_2.jpg|Entrance
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[[Image:Strassen_1.jpg|thumb|left|200px| Entrance ]]
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Image:Strassen_3.jpg|In front of entrance door with a large space in front (ideal for BBQ)
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Image:Strassen_4.jpg|Main entrance door
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Image:Strassen_5.jpg|Entrance hall with classes to left & right, toilets in back
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Image:Strassen_6.jpg|Classroom 1, left
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Image:Strassen_7.jpg|Classroom 1
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Image:Strassen_8.jpg|Classroom 2, top left
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[[Image:Strassen_3.jpg|thumb|left|200px| In front of entrance door with a large space in front (ideal for BBQ) ]]
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Image:Strassen_9.jpg|Classroom 2
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Image:Strassen_12.jpg|Classroom 2, view from top
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Image:Strassen_13.jpg|Each classroom is patched
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[[Image:Strassen_4.jpg|thumb|left|200px| Main entrance door ]]
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Image:Strassen_11.jpg|Each classroom is eqd with running water
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Image:Strassen_14.jpg|Men's room
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Image:Strassen_15.jpg|Central bathroom, could be kitchen later
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Image:Strassen_17.jpg|Cabling and heating room
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Image:Strassen_18.jpg|Classroom 3, top right
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[[Image:Strassen_5.jpg|thumb|left|200px| Entrance hall with classes to left & right, toilets in back ]]
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Image:Strassen_19.jpg|Classroom 3
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Image:Strassen_20.jpg|Classroom 4, right
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Image:Strassen_21.jpg|Classroom 4, right
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[[Image:Strassen_6.jpg|thumb|left|200px| Classroom 1, left ]]
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Image:Strassen_22.jpg|Firedetectors everywhere!
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Image:StrassenPSituation.jpg|Parking spaces all around, busses stopping @ 50m
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[[Image:Strassen_7.jpg|thumb|left|200px| Classroom 1 ]]
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[[Image:Strassen_11.jpg|thumb|left|200px| Each classroom is eqd with running water ]]
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[[Image:Strassen_15.jpg|thumb|left|200px| Cental bathroom, could be kitchen later ]]
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Revision as of 23:49, 28 August 2009

Contents

Possible Locations

The perfect place 

A HackerSpace should be spacious with preferably a few smaller rooms to have different projects in.
The Kitchen is nearly a must (see Social Cooking) but it should be a bit shielded from any other rooms to avoid any smells.
A Bathroom is an interesting feat.
The Living Room Spacious enough to have a couch and big table
A good public transport link is a must too

The perfect place would have:

  • A low rent
  • Heating
  • Natural light / windows to open
  • Kitchen
  • Toilet(s)
  • Shower
  • Parking or at least the possibility to access it with a truck to (un)load stuff
  • A bus stop or railway station not too far away and available till late
  • Separate entry (not shared with the rest of the tenants) so that we can install our own access system
  • No (or deaf) neighbors
  • Easy to reach
  • Some storage rooms (basement/cellar) for server
  • Broadband Internet access
  • Possibility to install machinery / tools for making things à la Bre
  • Exhibition area
  • Conference/presentation area
  • Small room without windows/light (for photography stuff)
  • Access to Food (either Restaurants or Markets)


Strassen, former primary school "containers"

The place in Strassen is quite close to being perfect...it has 4 separate classrooms which are about 60m2 each. Every room has a seperate lock on the door. There are 4 toilets for each sex and a small "serverroom" where the existing cabling infrastructure comes together. Situation is this : We need to wait on a meeting with the local mayor only then will we be able to fix rent charges, possibilities, etc. In the meantime, situation is excellent...bus is just 50m away, parking spaces about 20 in front, 50 more further away. Direct proximity to "Les Thermes" and its Restaurant/Bar facilities.

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Pictures

  • Entrance

  • Entrance

  • In front of entrance door with a large space in front (ideal for BBQ)

  • Main entrance door

  • Entrance hall with classes to left & right, toilets in back

  • Classroom 1, left

  • Classroom 1

  • Classroom 2, top left

  • Classroom 2

  • Classroom 2, view from top

  • Each classroom is patched

  • Each classroom is eqd with running water

  • Men's room

  • Central bathroom, could be kitchen later

  • Cabling and heating room

  • Classroom 3, top right

  • Classroom 3

  • Classroom 4, right

  • Classroom 4, right

  • Firedetectors everywhere!

  • Parking spaces all around, busses stopping @ 50m

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